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jbmaxwell
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bach.score to cage.profile?

Post by jbmaxwell » Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:17 pm

The subject pretty much says it all. I'd like to extract the profile from a bach.score, so I can start manipulating some of the core material from my current composition in bach/cage. I'm just not sure how to get from bach.score to cage.profile.gen... ?

danieleghisi
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Re: bach.score to cage.profile?

Post by danieleghisi » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:21 pm

Hi, the "sample" message is your friend ;)
Here's an example (see #sample to know more).
Hope this helps,
Daniele

<pre><code>
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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>

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Re: bach.score to cage.profile?

Post by danieleghisi » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:47 pm

Here's the same thing with a breakpoint function.
You might do better, also via bach.reducefunction.

<pre><code>
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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>

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Re: bach.score to cage.profile?

Post by jbmaxwell » Tue Sep 06, 2016 2:58 pm

Brilliant. Thanks, Daniele.

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Re: bach.score to cage.profile?

Post by jbmaxwell » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:15 pm

Okay, I can see that this gets me to a function, but what I was trying to replicate was the help file from cage.profile.gen, which uses a bach.slot. (I think I really just have to spend some time trying to properly learn/understand bach objects...)
But if you could possibly tweak your example to work with bach.profile.gen it would be a huge help (i.e., so I could break it down and study what's going on in more detail).

Thanks in advance.

J.

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Re: bach.score to cage.profile?

Post by danieleghisi » Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:32 pm

Hi,
cage.profile.gen just needs the (x y) (x y) (x y)... sequence, not necessarily coming from a bach.slot.
Here's an example (more text below)

<pre><code>
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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>


If however you wish to fill in a bach.slot, here's a way to do that


<pre><code>
----------begin_max5_patcher----------
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Re: bach.score to cage.profile?

Post by jbmaxwell » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:03 pm

Great, thanks a lot.
As I say, I still need to wrap my head around the general approach... maybe I'll spend some time with the video tutorials later today!

J.

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