Cage.scale

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keithwclancy
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Cage.scale

Post by keithwclancy » Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:43 am

I'm wanting to define a 24 note quartertone-based pitch and register collection using the cage.scale object and by using a starting pitch and a sequence of midicent values to define the intervals (it's effectively a compressed all interval chord). It seems to only display the first half of the collection. Is there a limit to the size of the scale that is possible? Or is there a better way of generating this collection? The purpose of it is to define a harmonic space for a note walk module to move within.
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Hopefully soon I will be better at working with Max. I've only had it a short while. It's pretty much a dream come true for me. I understand from friends who use it that the occasional snag is something I need to get used to :-)

keithwclancy
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Re: Cage.scale

Post by keithwclancy » Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:58 am

damn it was as simple as specifying the END of the scale! Haha I'm so sorry I'm such a newbie

keithwclancy
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Re: Cage.scale

Post by keithwclancy » Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:59 am

Hopefully my dumb questions may provide an answer for future students of this amazing piece of work.

danieleghisi
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Re: Cage.scale

Post by danieleghisi » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:47 pm

No problem, happy you found what you were looking for! :)

todd.harrop
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Re: Cage.scale

Post by todd.harrop » Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:00 pm

Hi Daniele, hi Andrea,

How can I fix or work around the bug re. changing the base? I would like this scale:

Code: Select all

cage.scale 4990 9110 (146.3) @base 6900
such that A4 is normal, D3 is 4998mc and E6 is 8802mc.

Beste Grüße
Todd

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Re: Cage.scale

Post by danieleghisi » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:56 pm

Todd, sorry for having waited so long!
Your message ended up in the moderation queue... I thought I checked it, but apparently I didn't...

Not sure I can spot the bug you're referring to.
Here's the version of the cage.scale abstraction, which in any case should NOT have this bug. Can you confirm?
Sorry again for the delay.

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todd.harrop
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Re: Cage.scale

Post by todd.harrop » Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:51 am

Hi there!

Thanks for the code! Yes, this seems to work, though quickly looking at both this code and the other, they appear identical to me. When I have time this weekend I will look more closely at both because I'm curious what was happening, and I'll let you know what I find.

Cheers,
Todd

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Re: Cage.scale

Post by todd.harrop » Fri Apr 01, 2016 4:28 pm

Hi Daniele,

I've looked and looked but can't see a difference between your cage.scale code from the other day vs. the cage.scale code I downloaded in your October workshop, and yet they do behave differently. Anyway, the 'new' one seems to work and I'm posting a patch with both in case you want to compare for yourself. If not, I wouldn't worry about it if no one seems to have the same experience as me.

Thanks again!
Todd

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Re: Cage.scale

Post by danieleghisi » Sat Apr 02, 2016 9:04 pm

Hi todd,

I'm comparing the "new" and the "old" version right now, and there seems to be a difference: the "base" attribute simply wasn't handled properly.
Just a single patch cord changing! See [route done base middlecoctave] at the root patch level.

Thanks for inspecting it and pointing this out!
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Re: Cage.scale

Post by pedrnun » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:33 pm

Hi!

What about scales whose modulo is not 12?
I've figured out that, in order for the transposition to be correct, the base must be set for a value less than or equal to the starting pitch. In standard scales, it doesn't have to be like that, so I was wondering if it must be so in this case.

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