Hi can anyone replicate this error? I made a video of this because it involves differing behaviour when opening a patch vs. posting it into a new window.
https://youtu.be/dcgYhVv0jhc
1. Open patch, enter presentation, click quantize; it's inaccurate! Many missing ties.
2. Copy entire patch, including roll that was quantized inaccurately, and paste into new patcher window, click quantize; it's accurate!
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Heads up you will need an abstraction called make-scale from Karlheinz Essl's library if you don't have it already; here are the contents of that abstraction:
<pre><code>
----------begin_max5_patcher----------
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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>
And here's the bach patch with the issue:
<pre><code>
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</code></pre>
Strange Quantization Issue
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Re: Strange Quantization Issue
Hi, I haven't watched the video, but there's an ugly known bug with roll quantization and ties that slipped in in the latest bach release. We have fixed it and there's a Patreon prerelease which is free for everyone. Please go here
https://www.patreon.com/posts/35055476
and download the release. Can you tell me if that fixes the issue?
Thanks,
Daniele
https://www.patreon.com/posts/35055476
and download the release. Can you tell me if that fixes the issue?
Thanks,
Daniele
Re: Strange Quantization Issue
Fixed! Thank you!!!
Re: Strange Quantization Issue
Two related issues, if you have time, in the same patch:
Upon opening, setting parameters, and then triggering to create sieve, bach.intersection will ALWAYS show null, even when that's not the case, and bach.symdiff always shows identical result to bach.trim+bach.join...but...once you delete bach.symdiff and bach.intersection and replace with new version of the same object, they now work as intended! Thoughts?
Slightly updated version with some things I've tried to fix this (including a bach.portal before set operations...does nothing...thought bach.collect might be interfering, but it appears not? Un-automated banging to simplify...no effect.)
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</code></pre>
Upon opening, setting parameters, and then triggering to create sieve, bach.intersection will ALWAYS show null, even when that's not the case, and bach.symdiff always shows identical result to bach.trim+bach.join...but...once you delete bach.symdiff and bach.intersection and replace with new version of the same object, they now work as intended! Thoughts?
Slightly updated version with some things I've tried to fix this (including a bach.portal before set operations...does nothing...thought bach.collect might be interfering, but it appears not? Un-automated banging to simplify...no effect.)
<pre><code>
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</code></pre>
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andreaagostini
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Re: Strange Quantization Issue
Hi,
could you please post a reduced version patch with steps to reproduce? Also, there are some abstractions missing.
Thanks,
andrea
could you please post a reduced version patch with steps to reproduce? Also, there are some abstractions missing.
Thanks,
andrea
Re: Strange Quantization Issue
My bad, this should be clearer, see below. There is probably a much simpler way to do this in bell, but I haven't read up on the language yet. The goal is to eventually develop tools like in this paper: https://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/pd ... 6054094396
Edit: Picture attached for further clarification. I expect to see bach.intersection print "2" and bach.symdiff to print "0 1 3 4" but they print something else. But, when I delete both objects and re-attach all patch chords, they print as expected.
<pre><code>
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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>
Edit: Picture attached for further clarification. I expect to see bach.intersection print "2" and bach.symdiff to print "0 1 3 4" but they print something else. But, when I delete both objects and re-attach all patch chords, they print as expected.
- bachexample.png (154.67 KiB) Viewed 3724 times
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