display note pitch not snapped like breakpoints (bach.roll)

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klausfilip
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display note pitch not snapped like breakpoints (bach.roll)

Post by klausfilip » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:51 am

hi there,
just exploring the wonderful world of bach for the first time, so sorry if i miss something.
i am looking for the option to display a note between the grid of the staff - like it is done with breakpoints - to see a correct display of a glissando.
(or alternatively to hide the "note" and only display the starting pitch as a breakpoint.)
the workaround i found until now is to set any (far away) pitch for the note and use a breakpoint, that has the same Onset like the note(chord) -
resulting into a vertical line, that i ignore.
with that i can see the startingpoint and endpoint of a glissando correctly.
thanks for any hints
klaus

klausfilip
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Re: display note pitch not snapped like breakpoints (bach.roll)

Post by klausfilip » Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:57 pm

hi there,
in the meanwhile i read everything about bach.roll, am even more impressed
and made a patch to demonstrate my request.

actually it is not only about displaying the notes off their conservative positions in the staff,
it is about an alternative staff that displays the pitch evenly distributed.

please have a look into my patch below and turn on "change display".
(i use a transparent lcd on top of the roll to display a staff, i developed some time ago. )
the staff has more spacing between the G and B lines and between the F and A lines
it is like a midi-piano-roll then but still keeps the musical look of a staff.
with noteheads it even offers the option to read semitones without writing accidentials.

actually working with this lcd-hack is possible, the wide flexibility of bach.roll makes it possible,
however having such a pixel-true display-mode native in bach.roll would be much more convenient.

anyway i have 2 very small requests:
- vzoom is zooming too many things for my taste.
the scroll bars and the labels are zoomed, eating away the space for editing.
type in vzoom 800 in my patch to see, what i am talking about.
vzoom 800 and more could be usefull however when working on finetuning pitches.
so maybe optionally exclude these from vzoom ?
- the clefs similarily zoom quite fat, as i understand its not too pretty to only stretch them vertically
an option to show/hide the clefs would be good.

cheers
klaus





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Re: display note pitch not snapped like breakpoints (bach.roll)

Post by danieleghisi » Sat Nov 23, 2019 12:31 pm

Hi,
I understand your request, and I agree that it would be interesting. That's something we have also been thinking ourselves at some point, but never implemented, since it's not that straightforward as a feature. It's somewhere on the to-do list, but that may be for bach 0.9, who knows :-)

As for the clefs, you can set a clef to "none" in order to hide it.

Daniele

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